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FORUM: Private E-Mail HOST: LEADING
DATE: Feb-15-95 4:21am MSG: 254 PVT
FROM: Digestifier
TO: Dbn
SUBJECT: Phish Digest #605
· (Continued from last message)
JKasper@warren.med.harvard.edu
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From: Alek Grabinski <Alek_Grabinski@ccm.sc.intel.com>
Subject: DownerMan's Tapelist Tips
Reply-To: Alek_Grabinski@ccm.sc.intel.com
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 03:27:14 GMT
Text item: Text_1
After very mildly flaming someone for posting their list to the
net, I followed up with these tips on making a tapelist,
which we all know precedes us when we're setting up a trade.
Please note that some of the tips below apply only to e-mailable
lists; if you keep a non-text list and send hardcopies out,
disregard items 1, 2, and 3.
Enjoy!
1. Assume that your reader's mail system can only fit 72
characters across (standard is 80, but with automated
end-of-line wrap, you're likely to get two lines for
each single line you intend if you have more than 75
characters).
2. Write your list in a fixed-width font like Courier
(fixed-width means that each letter takes up the same
width, regardless of whether it's an "l" or an "m"),
so you can see what it'll look like.
3. Create spaces on a line by using the spacebar, not the
Tab key. Some primitive mailers (like mine) interpret
Tab characters as single-width non-printable characters,
which means I get one little box, not eight spaces.
4. Provide as much info as possible within the 72 character
limit. Here's an example:
05/07/93 _2 Bangor Auditorium, Bangor, ME SBD1dm 10 100
05/30/93 all Laguna Seca Daze, CA AUD0dm 9 90
07/24/93 12 Great Woods, Mansfield, MA AUD0dm 10 190
08/02/93 12 The Ritz, Ybor City, FL AUD1dm 9 180
08/07/93 12 Darien Lake, NY AUD0dm 10 200
08/08/93 12 Nautica Stage, Cleveland, OH AUD0dm 9 90+110
08/13/93 _2 Murat Theatre, Indianapolis, IN SBD1dm 10 100
08/14/93 12 World Thtr, Tinley Park, IL AUD2 10 180
[date] [sets] [venue] [gen] [rate] [time]
5. Include all your personal data somewhere on your list.
This means: Name, e-mail address, snailmail address
(include 4-digit ZIP extension for faster delivery - it
really does work!), TELEPHONE NUMBERS, taping equipment
used, blank tape preferences, and maybe what you're looking
for (a rare show, a particular era from a particular band,
etc).
6. Keep it updated by noting the date of the last revision
on the list. Keep a mailing list of all the traders you've
done business with in the past and mail your list after
you've made a major update.
That's all for now!
DownerMan
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From: brknarrow1@aol.com (BrknArrow1)
Subject: Phish: Tour dates
Date: 14 Feb 1995 14:02:46 -0500
Reply-To: brknarrow1@aol.com (BrknArrow1)
Anyone know where I can get tour dates for Phish? I really need to go to
a concert soon
Brkn
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From: selegue@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Thomas Selegue)
Subject: Re: hey it's poop
Date: 14 Feb 1995 19:00:48 GMT
John Jablonski (jabster@crl.com) wrote:
: > yeah- it'l called a segue
: A selegue?
No, that's the name of someone's band, isn't it?
-Tom
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From: jayvan@omnifest.uwm.edu (Jay Van Orsdol)
Subject: Here is my tape list. Wanna trade?
Date: 14 Feb 1995 13:19:45 -0600
Hello everyotherphish
I'd like to make some quick, easy, high quality trades. so if you have some
good phish, please send me your list and what you would like. Thanks.
Jay VO
- The Man Who Stepped into Yesterday
- The White Phish Tape
- 12/1/84 - Nectar's - Burlington VT - set I
- 8/27/87 - Ian McLain's farm, Hinesburg VT. - I,II+III - First BBFCFM
- 5/25/88 - Nectar's - Burlington VT - I,II+III
- ?/?/88 - Nectar's
- 7/23/88 - Pete's Phabulous Phish Phest - Underhill VT
- 10/29/88 - Goddard College
- 11/5/88 - Hamilton College - I+II
- 4/15/89 - UVM Student center - II - First Mango Song
- 10/19/89 - The Front NYC - I+II - First Reba
- 10/29/89 - Burlington, VT - II - w/ horns
- 3/9/90 - The Marquee, Burlington VT - II
- 3/11/90 - The Front, VT - II
- 10/31/90 - Colorado Springs -
- 11/4/90 - Fort Collins, Colorado - I+II
- 11/8/90 - Barrymore Theater, Madison, WI - II - w/John Popper
- 12/28/90 - The Marquee, NYC - I
- 2/15/91 - Keene, NH - I+II
- 3/13/91 - Boulder Theater, CO - II
- 3/16/91 - Ten Mile Room, Colorado - I+II
- 4/11/91 - The Cave, Northfield, MN - I
- 5/16/91 - The Sting, CT - mix
- 7/15/91 - The Academy, NYC - I - w/ GCH
- 7/21/91 - Arrowhead Ranch, NYC - I+II - w/ GCH
- 7/29/91 - Charlottesville, Virginia - I
- 8/3/91 - Amy's Farm, Auburn, ME - I,II+III
- 10/4/91 - Barrymore Theater, Madison - II
- 10/13/91 - North Shore Surf Club, Olympia, WA - I
- 10/19/91 - Catalyst Club, Santa Cruz, CA - II
- 12/7/91 - Portsmouth, NH - I
- 3/13/92 - Campus Club, Providence, RI - I,II
- 4/6/92 - Western State, Gunnison, CO -
- 4/16/92 - Anaconda Theater, Santa Barbara, CA - I+II
- 4/18/92 - Stanford University - I
- 4/22/92 - Eugene Oregon - II
- 4/30/92 - Barrymore Theater, Madison, WI - I+II
- 5/1/92 - The Rave, Milwaukee, WI - I
- 5/2/92 - Cabaret Metro, Chicago, IL - I+II
- 5/9/92 - The Armory, Syracuse, NY - II
- 7/25/92 - PAC, Stowe, VT - II w/ Carlos Santana
- 8/17/92 - San Juan, CA - I
- 11/29/92 - Keswick Theater, Philly, PA - II
- 12/8/92 - Barrymore Theater, Madison, WI - I+II
- 12/31/92 - Matthews Arena, Boston, MA - I+II+III
- 3/22/93 - Crest Theater, Sacramento, CA - I+II
- 7/24/93 - Great Woods, Mansfield, MA - II
- 8/8/93 - Nautical Stage, Cleveland Zoo - II
- 8/13/93 - The Murat Theater, Indianapolis, IN - I+II
- 8/14/93 - The World Music Theater, Tinley Park, IL - I+II
- 8/20/93 - Red Rocks, CO I+II - SBD A+
- 12/31/93 - The Centrum, Worchester, MA - I,II+III
- 4/15/94 - The Beacon Theater, NYC - I+II - set II w/ horns
- 4/23/94 - Fox Theater, Atlanta, GA - I,II
- 4/29/94 - Boatyard Village Pavilion, Clearwater, FL - I+II
- 6/17/94 - Eagle's Ballroom, Milwaukee, WI - I+II
- 6/18/94 - UIC Pavilion, Chicago, IL - I+II
- 6/24/94 - Murat Theater, Indianapolis, IN - I+II
- 7/3/94 - The Ballpark, Old Orchard Beach, ME - I+II
- 7/8/94 - Great Woods, Mansfield, MA - I+II
- 10/7/94 - Stabler Arena, Lehigh U., Bethlehem, PA - I+II 1st Guyute
- 10/14/94 - Tulane U. New Orleans, LA - I+II
- 10/31/94 - Glenn Falls, NY - I,II+III - 1st generation H'ween!
- 11/20/94 - Madison, WI - I+II
12.1.94 Salem Armory, Salem OR I+II AUD/2 A++
12.2.94 Davis CA I+II AUD
12.3.94 San Jose CA I+II AUD/2
BTW
happy valentines day.
------------------------------
From: frazzini@bunuel.math.washington.edu (David Frazzini)
Subject: LSD Tree?
Date: 14 Feb 1995 19:20:22 GMT
I think I missed the posting of the LSD tree, and I can't find a copy in
the archives. Could someone please mail me a copy?
Thanks a lot-
Dave
frazzini@math.washington.edu
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From: emery@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Emery Dora)
Subject: Re: I know this is a no brainer question
Date: 14 Feb 1995 19:02:25 GMT
In article <3hpjuc$5so6@usenetp1.news.prodigy.com>, ZRLE76A@prodigy.com
(Paul Emmett) wrote:
> Have they ever played the Wedge live? Its not on any of my tapes. If they
> have, when, and which is a hot version. thank you!! Paul
>
>
>
> "We're just bobbin on the surface!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
-- March of '93 in Santa Cruz, CA. I don't know of any others.
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From: ZRLE76A@prodigy.com (Paul Emmett)
Subject: ****Attn. Noah Julius**********
Date: 14 Feb 1995 19:39:11 GMT
Hey there,
Justed wanted to check if that woodbury video got there OK. I sent it
about a month ago. I can't wait to hear the 93 redrocks, and 94 dallas.
In case you forgot my adress is 905 e park #27
Carbondale Il 62901 Later
Buddy
PAul Emmett
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Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 17:28:52 EST
From: Ray D'Antuono <RPD107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Subject: Re: Why people hate Sample
In article <3hpeca$j68@amhux3.amherst.edu>, ethein@unix.amherst.edu (Mondo
Mando) says:
>
>I don't so much hate Sample as just think it represents some musical slacking
>on the part of the band. Hoist has some jewels on it, but songs like
>Wolfman's Brother, Sample and Dwd are very derivative. There's nothing wrong
>with a little classic rock, mind you, but there are many better bands for that
>stuff than Phish.
>
>I resent "Sampleheads" not for their newness to the scene, but for their lack
>of appreciation for Phish stuff that's further "out there." It has been my
>experience that people who don't listen very deeply to music can enjoy stuff
>like Sample, Chalkdust, etc. They scratch their heads bemusedly during Reba,
>Harry, YEM, etc. And they cringe in disgust when they hear Demand, SOAMelt,
Hmmm... I take offense to this. First of all, I must admit that I am rather
new to the Phish scene compared to most of you out there. I've never been to
a show and I bought my first album just last summer. And I think 'Sample in a
Jar' is a great song, and not only that, I think 'Hoist' is a great album!
Yes, I know what you are thinking now - that I'm the typical sample-head
newbie. Yet this stuff about fans like me not appreciating their stuff that is
'out there' is absurd. A little over a year ago, a buddy of mine lent me
Junta. Until then I had not heard a single note of Phish. I was instantly
blown away by songs such as YEM, David Bowie, Foam, Fluffhead and Fluff's
Travels, and (my personal favorite) Esther. The musicianship and song
structure amazed me. It was a while before I heard any more Phish, but next
it was Lawnboy, and I was equally impressed, I was not 'scratching my head' or
'cringing in disgust', on the contrary, I thought *wow* when I heard SOAMelt,
Reba, Antelope, and the rest. I recently bought Picture of Nectar, and
needless to say, I liked it (understatement). (What's wrong with Chalkdust,
anyway?) Was I disappointed that the band seemed to be moving away from the
style they crafted on Junta? No, I was very impressed with the way they moved
forward, delving into musical styles previously unexplored by the band. Now,
I must admit that I am not too familiar with Rift at this point in time, and
by saying this I am opening myself up to being called a clueless newbie. But
I really enjoy Hoist, and I view it as a natural product of their evolution as
a band. I'm sure they could have instead put out an album similar to Junta,
complete with 15 minute odd-time jams and what not, and thus satisfy many of
the fans, but what would be the point? They've already done that, and it's
there for everyone to hear at the concerts. They're moving on to different
things, just like they've done with every other album. I think people are
thrown off by the fact that it is so different from their other albums, and
maybe they want to throw their fans for a loop. But in time, I'm sure that
many of those who put the album down today will realize it for the good music
that it is. Julius, Sample, Wolfman's Brother, SOAMule, it's all great to me!
Whoa, didn't mean to waste so much bandwidth, but I had to get it off my chest.
- Ray
------------------------------
From: golgi999@aol.com (GOLGI999)
Subject: newbies suck
Date: 14 Feb 1995 19:43:58 -0500
Reply-To: golgi999@aol.com (GOLGI999)
i have been listening ti phish and doing shows for about five years now,
and i agree people are being a little hard on the new boys & girls on the
scene.its a power trip insecure cooler than tho people will always have. i
did dead tour for almost seven years and all my freinds did nothinb but
bitch about the new comer wanna b's,but it was not for these people know
onr would make any money on tour. a catch22 one might say.not to mention
half of them go away in a year or anyway.and the ones who dont stick
around for a stronger scene.they might be dumb but everyone starts out
that way....good job sticking up for the kids.excuse the typeing it's 4:20
here...........
golgi999
see you at the next stop..........
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From: bob908@aol.com (BOB908)
Subject: Re: !!!!!PHISH TO HEADLINE LOLLAPALLOZA '95!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 14 Feb 1995 19:47:37 -0500
Reply-To: bob908@aol.com (BOB908)
that would suck
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From: Michael Maryanov <mmaryano@umabnet.ab.umd.edu>
Subject: thanks
Date: Tue, 14 Feb 1995 12:47:41 -0500
happy valentine's day folks!
i just want to thank the many people who responded to my request seeking
info on the ominous seapods. i began by sending email to all of you, but
the number of people who wrote to me grew and grew. so, im sending one
group thanks. :)
that's all.
humbly,
mike
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From: Alek Grabinski <Alek_Grabinski@ccm.sc.intel.com>
Subject: Bear Trap Road is not in Utah
Reply-To: Alek_Grabinski@ccm.sc.intel.com
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 04:01:23 GMT
Text item: Text_1
David Leonard Goss <gossdavi@student.msu.edu> asks about a venue:
|Does anyone know where or what Bear Trap Road is? It's in Utah.
It's not in Utah, it's in Vermont. UT. VT. Some tape labeler
needs to get the POINT.
DM
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From: gt0197e@prism.gatech.edu
Subject: N2O not NO2
Reply-To: gt0197e@prism.gatech.edu
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 1995 04:05:56 GMT
Hi, Just trying to clear up this issue.(not that it's an issue) I have seen
this song posted as NO2 but that is the chemical symbol for nitrogen dioxide
whereas N2O is the symbol for dinitrogen oxide(nitrous oxide) Hope this helps
in the labeling of tapes or whatnot.
Have a nice day,
Matt
P.S. Anyone with a lowgen copy of 7/9/94 or 12/30/92 please get in touch with
me. Thanks
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